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		<title>By: kalypso</title>
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		<dc:creator>kalypso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 20:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How you frame the question already and always frames the answer, whether the answer is something tragic or something to be celebrated. The fact that we cannot reconcile both the tragic and celebratory simultaneously in a way of thinking and communication in our current situation [bipartisan politics, &quot;terrorism&quot;, separation of church and state], further makes &#039;permanent&#039; the concept of absolute, state, good, rather than moving beyond these [false] &quot;problems&quot; in both our thinking and language. Writing about the relation between Heidegger and Nazism, in this way, places the writer in the same [insert dichotomy here] &quot;subject-object&quot; situation of power that he intends to criticize.
By the way, &quot;pephyka&quot; and &quot;fikken&quot; in addition to all the other derivatives in Latin, Dutch, Spanish, Romanian, Italian and English, come from the Indo-European root b(h)u - and b(h)ug - or &quot;be&quot; and &quot;becoming&quot;.
The deed is everything, the interpretation, the act, the joining, the decisive situation. The decisive calling for/beckoning to the questionability brings us both nearer to and further from the situation of the question.
Naming that decision [intention] as race, politics, religion, erects the situation as actual, but it is necessary to simultaneously consider and reflect on the fact that we are able to think about the situation in a multitude of ways. Why is it that we &quot;fight&quot; for the rights of [abortion, gay marriage] with an allegiance to one side of the dichotomy; right/wrong, healthy/unhealthy, real/fake, normal/taboo? Why can we not celebrate the tragedy that is communicability; that we can think in more than one way?

questionability and interpretation: Dissemination (Derridas), Dialogue and Dialectic (Gadamer), Means WIthout End (Agamben)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How you frame the question already and always frames the answer, whether the answer is something tragic or something to be celebrated. The fact that we cannot reconcile both the tragic and celebratory simultaneously in a way of thinking and communication in our current situation [bipartisan politics, "terrorism", separation of church and state], further makes &#8216;permanent&#8217; the concept of absolute, state, good, rather than moving beyond these [false] &#8220;problems&#8221; in both our thinking and language. Writing about the relation between Heidegger and Nazism, in this way, places the writer in the same [insert dichotomy here] &#8220;subject-object&#8221; situation of power that he intends to criticize.<br />
By the way, &#8220;pephyka&#8221; and &#8220;fikken&#8221; in addition to all the other derivatives in Latin, Dutch, Spanish, Romanian, Italian and English, come from the Indo-European root b(h)u &#8211; and b(h)ug &#8211; or &#8220;be&#8221; and &#8220;becoming&#8221;.<br />
The deed is everything, the interpretation, the act, the joining, the decisive situation. The decisive calling for/beckoning to the questionability brings us both nearer to and further from the situation of the question.<br />
Naming that decision [intention] as race, politics, religion, erects the situation as actual, but it is necessary to simultaneously consider and reflect on the fact that we are able to think about the situation in a multitude of ways. Why is it that we &#8220;fight&#8221; for the rights of [abortion, gay marriage] with an allegiance to one side of the dichotomy; right/wrong, healthy/unhealthy, real/fake, normal/taboo? Why can we not celebrate the tragedy that is communicability; that we can think in more than one way?</p>
<p>questionability and interpretation: Dissemination (Derridas), Dialogue and Dialectic (Gadamer), Means WIthout End (Agamben)</p>
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		<title>By: Brunson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brunson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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&quot;But should readers beware? Will an afternoon with Kant and the Problem of Metaphysics or the work of one of Heidegger’s acolytes – Arendt’s The Origins of Totalitarianism, for instance – really see readers washed away, unawares, by the undercurrents of Nazi thinking? It doesn’t really seem very likely, and that’s not just because there’s very little actual Fuhrer-loving, Semite-hating stuff to be read in these works. It’s due to the fact that readers are not empty receptacles into which ideas, good, bad and ugly, are just pumped. People interpret, engage, and – yes – think about what they are reading. To worry that philosophical works, and works as prolix as Heidegger’s, works that demand efforts of interpretation, might accidentally turn readers into Nazis is as patronising and absurd as the early-1990s concern that kids, listening to Judas Priest records, were being turned into the children of Beelzebub.&quot;</description>
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<p>&#8220;But should readers beware? Will an afternoon with Kant and the Problem of Metaphysics or the work of one of Heidegger’s acolytes – Arendt’s The Origins of Totalitarianism, for instance – really see readers washed away, unawares, by the undercurrents of Nazi thinking? It doesn’t really seem very likely, and that’s not just because there’s very little actual Fuhrer-loving, Semite-hating stuff to be read in these works. It’s due to the fact that readers are not empty receptacles into which ideas, good, bad and ugly, are just pumped. People interpret, engage, and – yes – think about what they are reading. To worry that philosophical works, and works as prolix as Heidegger’s, works that demand efforts of interpretation, might accidentally turn readers into Nazis is as patronising and absurd as the early-1990s concern that kids, listening to Judas Priest records, were being turned into the children of Beelzebub.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: enowning</title>
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		<dc:creator>enowning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heidegger usually did one lecture course, and one or two seminars, per semester. The lecture courses are usually well documented - Heidegger would normally write them out. Almost all of them are now published. The seminars are more of a mixed bag. Several have been published, but they&#039;re usually based on a mix of students and Heideger&#039;s notes. I dug up a paper of Faye&#039;s from South Central Review (Spring 2006) and he says its a seminar. He also mentions another contemporary seminar on Hegel. I don&#039;t see either in the works published so far. Does Faye include them in his book, or just his own excerpts? I know from investigating Faye&#039;s excerpt from another seminar that it reads differently when read in context.

I found some stuff from these seminars in Zizek&#039;s In Defense of Lost Causes; his source is Faye&#039;s book. They&#039;re interesting because it&#039;s rare for Heidegger to say anything about politics, and here he goes into Hegel&#039;s ideas of the leadership of the state. It sounds like the Heidegger that Leo Strauss critizes. Normally, I don&#039;t care for Heidegger&#039;s politics, but I&#039;m curious about this &quot;radical ontologization of the state&quot;, and how Heidegger makes the jump from fundamental ontology to something as practical as how to run a government. I&#039;ll probably pick up Faye&#039;s book when its remaindered. I&#039;ve bought the other H &amp; politics books that way a couple years after they were released. There&#039;s always a big splash when they come out, but they never sell very well, because few people actually care to read Heidegger&#039;s political insights.

BTW, Heidegger can be quite nastily anti-semitic in some of his personal communications, even though that didn&#039;t prevent him from having life long personal relations with some Jews. One research topic someone should do is: when exactly did Heidegger adopt his stance against biological racism? That would closely tie in with his statements on blood and race, which don&#039;t appear to have the meaning they have today in our age of genetic engineering, and instead seem to refer to ethnic cultures.

Also, the notion that there&#039;s something ontologically special about the German people pops up through out Heidegger&#039;s works. This is probably one reason non-German readers (and I suspect most Germans too) don&#039;t buy into everything Heidegger wrote. 

My German being atrocious, I hope some graduate students somewhere will grace us with translations of these seminars. However, after immersion in Contributions to Philosophy and Mindfulness, I&#039;m hoping Die Geschichte des Seyns (1938-40) and Das Ereignis (1941/42) are translated before Alzheimer&#039;s or Dementia bring my readings of ontology to an end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heidegger usually did one lecture course, and one or two seminars, per semester. The lecture courses are usually well documented &#8211; Heidegger would normally write them out. Almost all of them are now published. The seminars are more of a mixed bag. Several have been published, but they&#8217;re usually based on a mix of students and Heideger&#8217;s notes. I dug up a paper of Faye&#8217;s from South Central Review (Spring 2006) and he says its a seminar. He also mentions another contemporary seminar on Hegel. I don&#8217;t see either in the works published so far. Does Faye include them in his book, or just his own excerpts? I know from investigating Faye&#8217;s excerpt from another seminar that it reads differently when read in context.</p>
<p>I found some stuff from these seminars in Zizek&#8217;s In Defense of Lost Causes; his source is Faye&#8217;s book. They&#8217;re interesting because it&#8217;s rare for Heidegger to say anything about politics, and here he goes into Hegel&#8217;s ideas of the leadership of the state. It sounds like the Heidegger that Leo Strauss critizes. Normally, I don&#8217;t care for Heidegger&#8217;s politics, but I&#8217;m curious about this &#8220;radical ontologization of the state&#8221;, and how Heidegger makes the jump from fundamental ontology to something as practical as how to run a government. I&#8217;ll probably pick up Faye&#8217;s book when its remaindered. I&#8217;ve bought the other H &amp; politics books that way a couple years after they were released. There&#8217;s always a big splash when they come out, but they never sell very well, because few people actually care to read Heidegger&#8217;s political insights.</p>
<p>BTW, Heidegger can be quite nastily anti-semitic in some of his personal communications, even though that didn&#8217;t prevent him from having life long personal relations with some Jews. One research topic someone should do is: when exactly did Heidegger adopt his stance against biological racism? That would closely tie in with his statements on blood and race, which don&#8217;t appear to have the meaning they have today in our age of genetic engineering, and instead seem to refer to ethnic cultures.</p>
<p>Also, the notion that there&#8217;s something ontologically special about the German people pops up through out Heidegger&#8217;s works. This is probably one reason non-German readers (and I suspect most Germans too) don&#8217;t buy into everything Heidegger wrote. </p>
<p>My German being atrocious, I hope some graduate students somewhere will grace us with translations of these seminars. However, after immersion in Contributions to Philosophy and Mindfulness, I&#8217;m hoping Die Geschichte des Seyns (1938-40) and Das Ereignis (1941/42) are translated before Alzheimer&#8217;s or Dementia bring my readings of ontology to an end.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have to go back and look again, but in the case of the &quot;Nature, History, and State&quot; seminar, apparently it -was- a secret, or at least unpublished, with no critical edition. I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s the same one you&#039;re referring to or not... did Heidegger give more than one lecture/seminar course at a time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to go back and look again, but in the case of the &#8220;Nature, History, and State&#8221; seminar, apparently it -was- a secret, or at least unpublished, with no critical edition. I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s the same one you&#8217;re referring to or not&#8230; did Heidegger give more than one lecture/seminar course at a time?</p>
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		<title>By: enowning</title>
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		<dc:creator>enowning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for going to B&amp;N and reporting back on Faye&#039;s book. I&#039;m finding all kinds of inconsistencies between Faye and the canonical reading of the same texts. I&#039;ll try to look some things up this evening and comment.

Right away I notice that this bit,

&quot;On the Essence and Concepts of Nature, History, and State (Winter 1933-34)
This is Faye’s secret weapon. An unpublished lecutre series on politics and Hitlerism.&quot;

I&#039;ve never heard of this title. WS 33/34 is published as Vom Wesen der Wahrheit (WS 1933/34) in GA 36/37. I assume they are the same lecture course, and that Faye doesn&#039;t haven&#039;t access to a secret lecture series other scholars don&#039;t know about. I haven&#039;t read it - translation in preparation - but I&#039;ve heard it is the most problematic for Heidegger and Nazism apologists. However, most other scholars have a different interpretation from Faye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for going to B&amp;N and reporting back on Faye&#8217;s book. I&#8217;m finding all kinds of inconsistencies between Faye and the canonical reading of the same texts. I&#8217;ll try to look some things up this evening and comment.</p>
<p>Right away I notice that this bit,</p>
<p>&#8220;On the Essence and Concepts of Nature, History, and State (Winter 1933-34)<br />
This is Faye’s secret weapon. An unpublished lecutre series on politics and Hitlerism.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never heard of this title. WS 33/34 is published as Vom Wesen der Wahrheit (WS 1933/34) in GA 36/37. I assume they are the same lecture course, and that Faye doesn&#8217;t haven&#8217;t access to a secret lecture series other scholars don&#8217;t know about. I haven&#8217;t read it &#8211; translation in preparation &#8211; but I&#8217;ve heard it is the most problematic for Heidegger and Nazism apologists. However, most other scholars have a different interpretation from Faye.</p>
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