Comments on: The Audacity of Hope http://www.anotherpanacea.com/2006/11/the-audacity-of-hope/ Cure-alls and Remedies Sat, 04 Feb 2012 22:26:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: joshua http://www.anotherpanacea.com/2006/11/the-audacity-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-65 joshua Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:49:58 +0000 http://www.anotherpanacea.com/2006/11/24/the-audacity-of-hope/#comment-65 There's not a conflict between making civil rights claims and civic republicanism. Rights, in the civic republican context, are just institutions for achieving the basis of the good polis. Civic republicans don't forgo the very useful strategy of rights-claims, we simply keep factors other than individual rights and liberties in mind in our actions. The most important balancing test is whether a rights claim will be more damaging to the fabric of the community than the right being fought for can heal. In the case of Title VII, these claims almost always further both the foundations of democratic self-governance and the claims of individuals injured by racism. To make your claim, you'd have to be able to show that Obama sacrificed the good of the republic for the tawdry preservation of some minor and unimportant right. By the way, Rob: you've posted here before. How'd you find me? There's not a conflict between making civil rights claims and civic republicanism. Rights, in the civic republican context, are just institutions for achieving the basis of the good polis. Civic republicans don't forgo the very useful strategy of rights-claims, we simply keep factors other than individual rights and liberties in mind in our actions. The most important balancing test is whether a rights claim will be more damaging to the fabric of the community than the right being fought for can heal. In the case of Title VII, these claims almost always further both the foundations of democratic self-governance and the claims of individuals injured by racism. To make your claim, you'd have to be able to show that Obama sacrificed the good of the republic for the tawdry preservation of some minor and unimportant right.

By the way, Rob: you've posted here before. How'd you find me?

]]> By: Rob W http://www.anotherpanacea.com/2006/11/the-audacity-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-64 Rob W Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:33:45 +0000 http://www.anotherpanacea.com/2006/11/24/the-audacity-of-hope/#comment-64 Horseshit. Obama is a Title VII lawyer, first and foremost. Tomasky would have us believe that Obama is against such rights-based liberalism when his entire non-political career hasa been about advancing such an agenda. Thank god he has done so. Horseshit. Obama is a Title VII lawyer, first and foremost. Tomasky would have us believe that Obama is against such rights-based liberalism when his entire non-political career hasa been about advancing such an agenda. Thank god he has done so.

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